CrazyRedHead says: Plaintiff alleges that Barack Obama is not a citizen of the US - requests court order to make Obama's birth certificate public - and Obama fights it. Go to the site and click on filing 13 (particularly page 10, referring to Obama's Indonesian passport) and to see the substance of the case. Well, this should get tossed out fast. A child retains citizenship in the country he or she is born in, unless s/he specifically foreswears it. darkeforce - read the filing. Obama had Indonesian citizenship through his adoptive father, thus dual citizenship. Americans are not allowed to have dual citizenship. Under the US law cited in the documents, a child who has dual citizenship has to swear an Oath of Allegiance to the US at age 18 if he wants to retain his US citizenship. Obama allegedly traveled to Pakistan and India at age 20 on an Indonesian passport. That would suggest that he did not take the oath as above. Even if you disagree, it makes an interesting read. And BTW, if all it takes to dismiss this suit is a couple of documents from Obama, WHY doesn't' he produce them? The birth certificate has been public for months. Go to FactCheck.org for pictures, certificate # etc. I've never heard that Americans cannot have dual citizenship, or that they had to swear an oath at 18. And Constitutionally, he fits the requirement for natural-born citizen even WITH dual citizenship. Berg has a history of such lawsuits, which is why no one is really taking him seriously now. Hey - the law is the law. Either he is eligible or he is not according to the law. Reading over these proceedings, it appears not to have been resolved yet. Who is giving this muslim clown a pass???? He's eligible according to the law. Some maroon filing a lawsuit doesn't change the facts that have been present from the start. Since a Muslim isn't running, the second part of your statement is obviously for another person. Amazing how Republicans desperately cling to ignorance and lies. It's almost pathological. The same applies to McCain: [url=http://www.rawstory.com/news/mochila/Complaint_questions_McCain_citizens_03112008.html]A federal judge in California has been asked to determine if the Republican presidential candidate, who was born in the Panama Canal Zone in 1936, meets the legal test to qualify for the nation's highest office. The Constitution requires that only "natural born" citizens hold the presidency, a term on which the Founding Fathers did not elaborate. A two-page complaint filed March 6 in U.S. District Court in Riverside, Calif., argues that a judge should step in because the constitutional language is not precise, opening questions about the Arizona senator's standing. The ... The link for the New hampshire suit is http://wbz.com/pages/1851937.php? Just because someone files a lawsuit doesn't mean there is a new issue. Do you honestly think that, at this point in the two-year campaign, that something so easily proven legally would have slipped past the Republican administration until now? Do you honestly think they'd let Obama get this far if they could knock him out at the start? Is a child born outside the US to American parents legally eligible to become President? (Part 1) Most likely yes. The US Constitution (Article II, Section 1, Subsection 4) says: "No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty-five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States." The term "natural born citizen" is not used anywhere else in the Constitution, and it has ne... (continued from previous comment) At least three Presidential candidates in recent memory were born outside the US proper: Barry Goldwater, the 1964 Republican candidate, was born in the Arizona Territory in 1909 (Arizona did not become the 48th state until 1912). Goldwater lost the 1964 election to Lyndon Johnson. George Romney, a 1968 Republican hopeful, was born in Mexico in 1907 to American parents who had moved there to escape anti-Mormon persecution in the US. (Contrary to a widely held popular misconception, by the way, Romney's parents were settlers in Mexico, not missionaries.) Romney's campaign fizzle... Well stated, Jorjor. Thanks, darkeforce, but I got that from a web page dealing with dual citizenship, so I can only take credit for the discovery, not for the words themselves. The important point is that the Constitution never really got around to defining the term "natural born". That leaves a certain amount of wiggle room for the law. A search on "obama +passport" brought up many hits, but the first hundred or so were only concerned with the illegal snooping in Obama's passport records by some State Department employees early in 2008, which resulted in some firings and reprimands. Contrary to what CrazyRedHead said (and the allegations in the filings he refers to), it is, indeed, both legal and possible ... I know what you mean. I very nearly had dual citizenship myself, but my mother got back home with just a couple of hours to spare. I looked into dual citizenship quite a bit when I was in my teens and I first learned that I was nearly dual Canadain-American. All these insinuations about Obama's citizenship are laughable. Especially since if they apply to Obama, they also apply to McCain. Has McCain presented his birth certificate, to prove he's an American citizen? After all, he was born in Panama, not America. McCain was born in the Canal Zone, not panama, which was, from 1903 to 1979, a territory of the US, meaning that anybody born there had the same rights as anyone born in a fully-fledged state. McCain's citizenship is not in question, although his judgement and rationality are. I stand corrected. |
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